Comments on: How Do These Apply To Us? http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/ Thoughts on the Journey Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:42:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Ariah http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/#comment-32193 Ariah Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:00:29 +0000 http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/#comment-32193 Cindy, Thanks so much for stopping by. I really appreciate your insight. It was fun to just think through and ponder some of the stuff and like you say what it SAYS about the context, the law, and what relevance it might have for us today. But, as you say, we are certainly no longer bound by the law. Cindy,

Thanks so much for stopping by. I really appreciate your insight. It was fun to just think through and ponder some of the stuff and like you say what it SAYS about the context, the law, and what relevance it might have for us today.

But, as you say, we are certainly no longer bound by the law.

]]> By: C http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/#comment-32191 C Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:51:13 +0000 http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/#comment-32191 p.s. Regarding: 6 If you come across a bird’s nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not take the mother with the young. 7 You may take the young, but be sure to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have a long life. You make a parallel to the "‘promise’ that children receive for honoring their parents. Don’t know which is more difficult…)" Don't read too much into what you are reading in the Bible. Pay attention to what it SAYS, not what you can infer from it or that you read between the lines. The passage talks about birds; about the management of wildlife, which were at that time, the food supply. Ask first, What does it Say?. Then, What does it Mean? Then, How does this apply to me? If you had answered the first two questions correctly, you might not have reflected on human child/parent relationships... Correct me if I misunderstood your comment re the "promise." God Bless, Cindy p.s. Regarding:
6 If you come across a bird’s nest beside the road, either in a tree or on the ground, and the mother is sitting on the young or on the eggs, do not take the mother with the young. 7 You may take the young, but be sure to let the mother go, so that it may go well with you and you may have a long life.

You make a parallel to the “‘promise’ that children receive for honoring their parents. Don’t know which is more difficult…)”

Don’t read too much into what you are reading in the Bible. Pay attention to what it SAYS, not what you can infer from it or that you read between the lines. The passage talks about birds; about the management of wildlife, which were at that time, the food supply.

Ask first, What does it Say?. Then, What does it Mean? Then, How does this apply to me?

If you had answered the first two questions correctly, you might not have reflected on human child/parent relationships…

Correct me if I misunderstood your comment re the “promise.”

God Bless,
Cindy

]]> By: C http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/#comment-32190 C Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:45:09 +0000 http://blog.iamnotashamed.net/2008/04/06/how-do-these-apply-to-us/#comment-32190 You ask, "Do [these passages from Deuteronomy] say anything about our society today, or how we should be living?" Answer, No and Yes. No, in the sense that the Law, as written in the first four books of the Bible, was pre-Christ. It spelled out specific rituals and sacrifices required for atonement for sins. It spelled out rules for the people of God to live by. In many instances in the Old Testament, God punished people severely for disobeying his Law. He did so, in part, to demonstrate his power. Even so, time and time again, His chosen people failed Him, forgetting his miracles and choosing to worship other Gods or otherwise go their own way. Christ, the Messiah, the lamb of God, came, as prophesied in the Old Testament, to give His life for us as a final sacrifice, to redeem us, to atone for our sins, so that we could live, and SO THAT WE WERE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF THE OLD TESTAMENT. In that sense, no, the Law has nothing to do with how we now should live. ~ It is my understanding that Orthodox Jews, who believe that the Messiah has not yet come, still feel obligated to follow the Law as written in the Old Testament. ~ As for "Yes?" Yes, some of the rules for living are sensible guidelines for a good and moral and healthy life. The Christian Bible could be called a rule book for living, and a good one, even if God, and his son, Jesus, the Christ, our Messiah, and the Holy Spirit, did not actually exist, don't you agree? So, yes, follow the instruction in Deuteronomy of the moral laws, even of the common sense ideas regarding what you should and should not eat--it certainly cannot hurt your health to do so--but NO, do not feel that you should need to sacrifice animals or go through any other ritual of atonement described in the Old Testament in order to make yourself alright with God, because Christ took care of that when He came and gave his life for us so that we could live. Read all about it in the first four gospels of the New Testament, especially the chapter of John. Cindy You ask, “Do [these passages from Deuteronomy] say anything about our society today, or how we should be living?”

Answer, No and Yes.

No, in the sense that the Law, as written in the first four books of the Bible, was pre-Christ. It spelled out specific rituals and sacrifices required for atonement for sins. It spelled out rules for the people of God to live by. In many instances in the Old Testament, God punished people severely for disobeying his Law. He did so, in part, to demonstrate his power. Even so, time and time again, His chosen people failed Him, forgetting his miracles and choosing to worship other Gods or otherwise go their own way.

Christ, the Messiah, the lamb of God, came, as prophesied in the Old Testament, to give His life for us as a final sacrifice, to redeem us, to atone for our sins, so that we could live, and SO THAT WE WERE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF THE OLD TESTAMENT. In that sense, no, the Law has nothing to do with how we now should live. ~ It is my understanding that Orthodox Jews, who believe that the Messiah has not yet come, still feel obligated to follow the Law as written in the Old Testament. ~

As for “Yes?” Yes, some of the rules for living are sensible guidelines for a good and moral and healthy life. The Christian Bible could be called a rule book for living, and a good one, even if God, and his son, Jesus, the Christ, our Messiah, and the Holy Spirit, did not actually exist, don’t you agree?

So, yes, follow the instruction in Deuteronomy of the moral laws, even of the common sense ideas regarding what you should and should not eat–it certainly cannot hurt your health to do so–but NO, do not feel that you should need to sacrifice animals or go through any other ritual of atonement described in the Old Testament in order to make yourself alright with God, because Christ took care of that when He came and gave his life for us so that we could live. Read all about it in the first four gospels of the New Testament, especially the chapter of John.
Cindy

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